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We get our first glimpse of a man channeling with Logain in the prologue. The weaves have some of the "light" glowy swirly stuff we see with Moiraine...but also streaks of tainted darkness mixed in. Nice.
And his "advisors" are also voices no one else can hear, like his "friend" from earlier. They hint at some melodramatic backstory with his parents and sister that doesn't really feel necessary.
Now it's Rand's turn to be the paranoid one (with regard to "why are we letting Thom follow us").
"One Warder is never enough" - Alanna in her first scene with dialogue. #foreshadowing
Some of the other False Dragons who have proclaimed themselves in the past have included women. Makes sense with the changes for the TV show, but also, some of the Dragons mentioned in the books couldn't even channel, they were just seeking political power/wrongly believed themselves to be the chosen one. So having women in that capacity makes sense.
Moiraine talking about wanting Alanna's strength on her side at the last battle :(
The Grinwell farm! Else gets namedropped a couple times down the road when people need a false name to travel under.
Lan tries to casually sneak up and have lunch with Nynaeve and Liandrin just leaves them alone together.
The Tuatha'an start describing the Way of the Leaf. That's not really interesting, what's more interesting is that they didn't do it last episode--last episode I guess was just to be like "where will the wolves lead Perrin? Ooh, nomads with colorful clothing taste, yay!"
"Run if we can, endure if we cannot." I may be stretching it a bit here, but I feel like this could be relevant for Egwene (and Rand, although he's not here) in their arcs about embracing pain? Like, sometimes you just have to endure, and you make your peace with that because that's the way of live you've chosen.
And Ila uses this conversation to cold-read Perrin, nice.
Mat starts throwing up, we see the curse affecting him. Paralleling Logain's taint for a fakeout?
Else has a Birgitte doll!!!!!!
Okay and then Thom makes the Owyn-Mat parallel explicit.
The Warders are all shipping Lan/Nynaeve.
"How did you meet?" Lan quickly interrupts so Nynaeve doesn't reveal too much. Then she says "I tracked him" and everybody laughs because who could track the amazing woodsman, al'Lan Mandragoran?! The best lie is a simple truth.
The Tinker dancing music is nice, more my style than the operatic vocal stuff. "Are you sure this isn't the Song you're looking for?" -Egwene
Nice Ila and Perrin scene, discussing how realistic the pacifist lifestyle is. "What greater revenge against violence than peace?" I didn't really remember anything about Aram's parent/Raen and Ila's unnamed child from the books, but looking this up, apparently in the books Aram's mother gets killed by Trollocs at the start of book two and that makes him wonder "if I had a sword, could I have saved her?" So a different take on that dynamic.
"I wanted revenge." -Ila "That doesn't sound very much like the Way of the Leaf!" - Perrin. She's using it metaphorically, but this reminded me a tiny bit of the book 13 scene:
"I assume you hope that you saving my life in battle will make me reduce your punishment?" -Galad "It had better!" -Perrin *well, that was less heroic and more honest than I expected from this legendary dude* -Galad, mentally.
Tinker youth have an Amish-like Rumspringa period. (Ironic to me because I'm writing this as I visit my aunt and uncle, who are definitely not Amish themselves but live in a region with a high Amish/Mennonite population density.)
Liandrin: "What if we 'accidentally' let Logain escape so we could recapture him and then we'd have no choice but to gentle him?" I feel like this is the first of many "accidental" schemes in the series.
Nynaeve's backstory gets us another Manetheren callback! But that again raises the question of where exactly she's from--presumably the Two Rivers area because her family knows that quote? Or is she from farther away, just somewhere like Malkier where people happen to know the Old Tongue?
I understand that Nynaeve is just hanging out with Alanna and the Warders, but I feel like even though she is a tracking champ, once the battle with Logain's army breaks out they would not let her join the fray. Obviously in the long run Nynaeve is one of the best people to have on your side when battle begins, but rightly or wrongly, I think the Warders would be a bit protective and be like "leave us alone, just take cover." (Maybe if they knew she'd killed a Trolloc...)
Moiraine sneaks in on Logain as he's escaping--why? To learn more about saidin from someone with firsthand experience? Again, I think his approach would be just to knock her out and run away.
"Why are we reborn? So we can do better next time, right?" Nice dark take on the Tam philosophy from episode 1/book 12.
"The Wheel doesn't want anything, it can't. Any more than the river or the rain." Excuse me, missy, I thought the Wheel weaved as the Wheel willed?! Are we just never gonna get that line?
"Liandrin, you can't draw that much power, you'll burn out!" -Moiraine. I think this is our first mention of the potential to burn out (as distinguished from stilling/gentling). Also...why couldn't Liandrin just have burned out there, would make a lot of things easier.
Nynaeve is so angry she not only heals Lan but also Liandrin and presumably everyone else alive in the room. (Again, why couldn't you have just...not healed Liandrin and saved us some time.)
Again, this is obviously a fakeout with the "your power is a candle next to the sun" line from before.
Aaaand Logain just quotes that, yep. This is probably the only TV show where I'll be able to say something smart and insightful moments before they make it explicit, and that's because I've read the books so many times :D :D
sheliak and tar_valon, thanks!!We get our first glimpse of a man channeling with Logain in the prologue. The weaves have some of the "light" glowy swirly stuff we see with Moiraine...but also streaks of tainted darkness mixed in. Nice.
And his "advisors" are also voices no one else can hear, like his "friend" from earlier. They hint at some melodramatic backstory with his parents and sister that doesn't really feel necessary.
Now it's Rand's turn to be the paranoid one (with regard to "why are we letting Thom follow us").
"One Warder is never enough" - Alanna in her first scene with dialogue. #foreshadowing
Some of the other False Dragons who have proclaimed themselves in the past have included women. Makes sense with the changes for the TV show, but also, some of the Dragons mentioned in the books couldn't even channel, they were just seeking political power/wrongly believed themselves to be the chosen one. So having women in that capacity makes sense.
Moiraine talking about wanting Alanna's strength on her side at the last battle :(
The Grinwell farm! Else gets namedropped a couple times down the road when people need a false name to travel under.
Lan tries to casually sneak up and have lunch with Nynaeve and Liandrin just leaves them alone together.
The Tuatha'an start describing the Way of the Leaf. That's not really interesting, what's more interesting is that they didn't do it last episode--last episode I guess was just to be like "where will the wolves lead Perrin? Ooh, nomads with colorful clothing taste, yay!"
"Run if we can, endure if we cannot." I may be stretching it a bit here, but I feel like this could be relevant for Egwene (and Rand, although he's not here) in their arcs about embracing pain? Like, sometimes you just have to endure, and you make your peace with that because that's the way of live you've chosen.
And Ila uses this conversation to cold-read Perrin, nice.
Mat starts throwing up, we see the curse affecting him. Paralleling Logain's taint for a fakeout?
Else has a Birgitte doll!!!!!!
Okay and then Thom makes the Owyn-Mat parallel explicit.
The Warders are all shipping Lan/Nynaeve.
"How did you meet?" Lan quickly interrupts so Nynaeve doesn't reveal too much. Then she says "I tracked him" and everybody laughs because who could track the amazing woodsman, al'Lan Mandragoran?! The best lie is a simple truth.
The Tinker dancing music is nice, more my style than the operatic vocal stuff. "Are you sure this isn't the Song you're looking for?" -Egwene
Nice Ila and Perrin scene, discussing how realistic the pacifist lifestyle is. "What greater revenge against violence than peace?" I didn't really remember anything about Aram's parent/Raen and Ila's unnamed child from the books, but looking this up, apparently in the books Aram's mother gets killed by Trollocs at the start of book two and that makes him wonder "if I had a sword, could I have saved her?" So a different take on that dynamic.
"I wanted revenge." -Ila "That doesn't sound very much like the Way of the Leaf!" - Perrin. She's using it metaphorically, but this reminded me a tiny bit of the book 13 scene:
"I assume you hope that you saving my life in battle will make me reduce your punishment?" -Galad "It had better!" -Perrin *well, that was less heroic and more honest than I expected from this legendary dude* -Galad, mentally.
Tinker youth have an Amish-like Rumspringa period. (Ironic to me because I'm writing this as I visit my aunt and uncle, who are definitely not Amish themselves but live in a region with a high Amish/Mennonite population density.)
Liandrin: "What if we 'accidentally' let Logain escape so we could recapture him and then we'd have no choice but to gentle him?" I feel like this is the first of many "accidental" schemes in the series.
Nynaeve's backstory gets us another Manetheren callback! But that again raises the question of where exactly she's from--presumably the Two Rivers area because her family knows that quote? Or is she from farther away, just somewhere like Malkier where people happen to know the Old Tongue?
I understand that Nynaeve is just hanging out with Alanna and the Warders, but I feel like even though she is a tracking champ, once the battle with Logain's army breaks out they would not let her join the fray. Obviously in the long run Nynaeve is one of the best people to have on your side when battle begins, but rightly or wrongly, I think the Warders would be a bit protective and be like "leave us alone, just take cover." (Maybe if they knew she'd killed a Trolloc...)
Moiraine sneaks in on Logain as he's escaping--why? To learn more about saidin from someone with firsthand experience? Again, I think his approach would be just to knock her out and run away.
"Why are we reborn? So we can do better next time, right?" Nice dark take on the Tam philosophy from episode 1/book 12.
"The Wheel doesn't want anything, it can't. Any more than the river or the rain." Excuse me, missy, I thought the Wheel weaved as the Wheel willed?! Are we just never gonna get that line?
"Liandrin, you can't draw that much power, you'll burn out!" -Moiraine. I think this is our first mention of the potential to burn out (as distinguished from stilling/gentling). Also...why couldn't Liandrin just have burned out there, would make a lot of things easier.
Nynaeve is so angry she not only heals Lan but also Liandrin and presumably everyone else alive in the room. (Again, why couldn't you have just...not healed Liandrin and saved us some time.)
Again, this is obviously a fakeout with the "your power is a candle next to the sun" line from before.
Aaaand Logain just quotes that, yep. This is probably the only TV show where I'll be able to say something smart and insightful moments before they make it explicit, and that's because I've read the books so many times :D :D
